tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5200276.post6220487529526900176..comments2023-12-28T06:30:48.808-05:00Comments on The Rule of Reason: A Perfectly Clear Discourse on EvilUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5200276.post-11451483420559779942015-10-30T06:03:06.154-04:002015-10-30T06:03:06.154-04:00No nation is obligated to help other people no mat...No nation is obligated to help other people no matter how deserving of asylum if it is at the cost of its own destruction. People from ARI are dropping context when talking about free immigration as Ed has mentioned in previous articles.<br /><br />Hence, the argument that Americans can't do the jobs that would be left unfilled if immigration is stopped or controlled. Left out is the impact of regulations, minimum wage, welfare policies and other crippling laws, while lowering education standards resulting in dumbing-down of generations that will be good enough only to vote and riot. <br /><br />The challenge right now is to get government out of education and having that second renaissance in the realm of ideas. I am thankful for this blog for putting things in the proper perspective.Prashanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14440335753736734266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5200276.post-2600736031411632892015-10-25T13:59:29.316-04:002015-10-25T13:59:29.316-04:00"He says that if America were a free country ..."He says that if America were a free country we could have 10 immigrants per American and he would be "completely confident" that we would convert them or their children to the cause of liberty in 1 or 2 generations."<br /><br />Mollyneaux destroys this claim; with data. It actually shocked me, but I've seen this hatefact now in multiple places. 2nd generation immigrants are more anti-libety than 1st. 3rd generation immigrants are even worse than 2nd. Even with Asians. Now, it can be argued that this is because of the Progressives domination of the education system and even because of the public educations system itself. But that is a fact of our current societal organization. We don't live in Galt's Gulch. In this world, left-liberalism + immigration = further drift leftward = eventual hell on earth. <br /><br />I would love to see Brook debate Mollyneaux. He won't because Stephan is better at it. madmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14375140131881725965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5200276.post-15885312473159332492015-10-25T13:35:21.772-04:002015-10-25T13:35:21.772-04:00Was that debate between Brook and Peikoff? I'm...Was that debate between Brook and Peikoff? I'm tempted to listen but after listening to Brook and Ghate I don't think I could. They were ignorant of the actual data on immigrants and their welfare usage and their voting patterns. Also, they don't seem to understand that the Left is using non-white immigrants to change the racial demographics to capture total power of the nation. Leftists say this openly. There was just an article by a Leftist (I forget where) in which he openly stated that once whites were a minority the Democrats could abolish gun ownership. And its true, Hispanics don't vote pro-gun. So the Left want's to disarm whites and organized Objectivism thinks nothing about it. They have no awareness of how group voting patterns effect the cause of liberty.<br /><br />Even further, Onkar Ghate thinks that if some Guatemalan has a dream of making a life for himself and he is denied entry into America, then he is entirely entitled to hate the people who denied him entry. Think about that. Not only does it encourage hatred of whites by non-whites (which is what the Left constantly seeks to do) but it resembles some religious vision of what America means as a nation. That view totally destroys the very concept of nationhood. It actually seems to me to be somewhat Christian. And of course, Brook and Ghate are not aware of Robert Putnam's data on how racial diversity lowers social trust and cohesion. Why am I not surprised.<br /><br />ARI funded off shore? Interesting. <br /><br />Immigration is the hardest issue in politics IMO. Its true that the current economic system is terrible and the infinite price controls and regulations make untangling the mess near impossible. But the open immigration viewpoint is destructive to liberty as it makes libertarians and Randians look insane. Also, Brook mentions explicitly that he feels if you are not open immigration then you weaken the case for liberty. That right there is the problem. It takes real knowledge and insight to untangle that mess. Right now no one can. madmaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14375140131881725965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5200276.post-41142832871329914812015-10-24T12:17:40.311-04:002015-10-24T12:17:40.311-04:00There was a recent press release from the ARI that...There was a recent press release from the ARI that said you could get a funded student internship with Koch Foundation support.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17224280484542390176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5200276.post-37747669835898319682015-10-24T10:45:17.645-04:002015-10-24T10:45:17.645-04:00Steve Jackson: There was a lively debate on the s...Steve Jackson: There was a lively debate on the subject of immigration with Brook on Facebook. I didn't participate because I got tired some time ago of reading Brook's duck-and-dodge answers to questions others asked. The official ARI position on immigration is pure Fantasy Land. Brook argued in a manner suggesting he was representing someone else's position on the subject, and he was just a proxy. So, there was no chance of convincing him of the insanity of his position. A friend who observed the debate wrote me that he had heard that ARI and TOS (The Objectivist Standard)are being funded now offshore, that is, by foreign money. I wonder what happened to John Allison, the BB&T executive who promoted ARI (I know he took over CATO). It just gets stranger and stranger. Well, I say what I way here on RoR and elsewhere. Edward Clinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12160209827969614964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5200276.post-7008056087898628072015-10-24T08:48:04.974-04:002015-10-24T08:48:04.974-04:00Ed,
I don't know if you heard Yaron Brook'...Ed,<br /><br />I don't know if you heard Yaron Brook's recent show on immigration. <br /><br />http://www.blogtalkradio.com/yaronbrook/2015/10/17/radical-capitalist-episode-16-the-immigration-debate<br /><br />He says that if America were a free country we could have 10 immigrants per American and he would be "completely confident" that we would convert them or their children to the cause of liberty in 1 or 2 generations. That's right, a free America could have 3 billion third worlders and there would be nothing to worry about. It's ar 32 mins.<br /><br />SJAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17224280484542390176noreply@blogger.com